Welcome to CharlieCraft.com! Log in or Sign up to interact with the CharlieCraft community.

War and Flying

Discussion in 'Casual Discussion' started by Seven_Devils, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. Seven_Devils Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 5, 2015
    Message Count:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    Seven_Devils
    I was thinking, with the ability to fly, use creative, and magic carpets it kind of defeats the purpose of putting up walls and gatehouses as the opposition can simply fly over them then drop on top of a structure. Even if they manage to get hit in mid air they still drop behind the walls and negate their purpose.

    Is there any realistic counteraction to this?
    StevieTheTeevee likes this.
  2. ntall1 CCraft Team Admin

    Member Since:
    Mar 9, 2012
    Message Count:
    2,827
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    ntall1
    There are limits in place that disable these perks for set periods of time if players engage in pvp.

    The perks players have today are perks that I have sold since the beginning of CharlieCraft. We have players that play on the server that are still here from all the way back in 2011, so all perks, even tho they are no longer sold for real money, remain with the players who had purchased them.

    So, even tho this years version of CCraft includes war and pvp, these perks still exist so all those that have supported CharlieCraft throughout the years retain value in what they originally purchased, and to provide players in game upgrades and things to spend their in game currency on.

    At its core CharlieCraft is a casual survival build server, so even things like war and pvp are light hearted. If players choose to exploit perks or anything else in a way that threatens to damage the community, those players will be dealt with individually instead of removing perks or placing restrictions everyone.
    King_Um likes this.
  3. oogla SuperVIP

    Member Since:
    Mar 17, 2012
    Message Count:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    485
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    oogla
    Build glass domes over your towns. Not only do they look all freaky deaky futurustic, but it keeps out the flying pests.
  4. Seven_Devils Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 5, 2015
    Message Count:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    Seven_Devils
    How about disabling flying and magic carpet for players that are in towns that are at war? Once they are no longer "at war" status the perks are re-enabled?
    StevieTheTeevee likes this.
  5. Seven_Devils Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 5, 2015
    Message Count:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    Seven_Devils
    As I can't edit my posts, this brings up a second problem. During a war, if the attacking army flies up to the top of a structure on a plot and plants their flag the defending side will be effectively helpless. If it requires flying to get to the flagpost to destroy it, then the attackers can shoot anyone flying out of the air, and anyone that can't fly will be unable to help defend.

    So-as not to imbalance the Towny War features and the only solution I can see is to disable Magic Carpet, Flying, and Creative for players in a town that is at war. This still allows people not in conflict to use theirs, and allows people to use them any time other than war - which is where the issue is to begin with.
    StevieTheTeevee likes this.
  6. RabidGoldfishJ Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 4, 2015
    Message Count:
    29
    Likes Received:
    9
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    RabidGoldfishJ
    In other words, since flying and magic carpet are only disabled during the war, players can use these perks to get advantageous positions prior to starting the war. Then it doesn't matter if the perk is disabled, they still got past all the fortifications and defenses. This can be a problem.
  7. ntall1 CCraft Team Admin

    Member Since:
    Mar 9, 2012
    Message Count:
    2,827
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    ntall1
    War is an ongoing thing. There is no time limit. Perks are not disabled completely during war. There are timers based on when the player initiated pvp, or some other player initiates pvp with them.

    Please participate in a war, then come to me with your concerns. Because the concerns listed in this post are not backed by actual fact or based on how the mechanics actually work. You are simply coming up with potential issues based on what you believe might be true.

    My suggestion:
    • Go to war with another nation.
    • Discover all the problems that exist, instead of just guessing what potential problems may be.
    • Please take into account that war is largely untested as we do not really have active nations that wish to war, or enough overall players to keep up any kind of nation vs nation pvp consistent, meaning that we have little to no feedback on war and its mechanics yet (feedback from players who have actually participated in a war, had their land claimed, and claimed the land of another nation).
    • Please also view this post where the community democratically chose to keep perks even tho war exists:
  8. Taraborn Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 9, 2015
    Message Count:
    72
    Likes Received:
    5
    MINECRAFT NAME:
    Taraborn
    It might not be the most important thing on your list of things to do but is it possible to make is so that the fly and magic carpet perks don't work over a town you are enemies with? That way, as Rabid and Seven said, it isn't possible to fly past defences and shoot the enemy from within their town.
    StevieTheTeevee likes this.

Click these Buttons!!