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Discussion in 'CharlieCraft News' started by ntall1, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. ntall1 CCraft Team Admin

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    A lot of you guys just log into your favorite servers and start playing, and not really pay attention to what is going on with all the back end server owner/hosting, bukkit, and all that. So for those of you who don't really know whats going on right now I want to try to shed some light on why servers are not updating to 1.8.

    To host an MC server that is more than basic Vanilla you need some for of server modification that allows plugins. The main one used by most ppl today is Bukkit. Server hosts have been using Bukkit for almost 4 years now so they can do all the wonderful modifications that make each server unique. Without Bukkit servers would be no more than normal vanilla MC.

    So what is going on with Bukkit, and why might there not be a Bukkit for 1.8?
    Bukkit has always been a community project with code submitted by a wide variety of contributes. A few days ago one of the main contributors to the Bukkit project issued a DMCA take down request saying basically that Bukkit can no longer legally use his code that he had contributed. So right now all official download sources for Bukkit have been removed, and it is no longer accessible via official distribution.

    What about Spigot?
    Spigot uses bukkits code as its foundation as is subject to the same DMCA takedown.

    So what happens to all servers?
    We still don't really know yet. There is the option to stay at 1.7, but this still requires us to use software that with no longer receive active development, including plugins.

    So where do we go from here?
    Minecraft modding is a massive community that is already working on the next big thing to take bukkits place. Right now some very respected devs inside the MC community are leading a new project called Sponge that will mix a Bukkit style modding API with the already existing FORGE mod. The only downside is that old Bukkit plugins will not work because of the whole copyrighted code issue.

    So what about CharlieCraft?
    Right now our future is very unclear.

    This whole thing with Bukkit could get sorted out tomorrow, Dinnerbone might release his 1.8 update and everything might continue as it always has. This issue with Bukkit only started a few days ago, and no one is certain yet on who has the rights to do what. Mojang believes that the DMCA take down is not valid, so there is a good chance this will all just blow over. Or Bukkit could be officially dead.

    If Bukkit does die, if we continue to be funded to a reasonable degree I would love to move forward with whatever the next big server mod is gonna be.

    For more information on the Sponge Project please check out this link.
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  2. ShadedGaming SuperVIP

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    well hopefully everything will be okay.
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    ntall truthly do u think bukkit will make a 1.8 update so CC can update to 1.8?
  4. ntall1 CCraft Team Admin

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    With how Bukkit is licensed (GPL/LGPL) it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. And even if Wesly Wolf's DMCA takedown request got removed tomorrow anyone of the other 181 contributors to Bukkit could pull the same crap.

    Because Bukkit is licensed under GPL/LGPL I seriously doubt that anyone is going to be able to save it without completely rewriting it, and that is just not gonna happen. If Mojang contests all this they might be able to win, but Mojang has been pretty silent on what they are planning to do with this whole fiasco.

    For servers to be 1.8 Mojang will have to either release their Official MC API, or community modders will have to create something completely new. This is the current reality for online MC servers.

    Progress for SMP has been rolled back about 3 years with this DMCA takedown, and its gonna affect the entire MC community including server owners, modders, and players.
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    well that just sucks , that boy needs a beating if he is messing with my minecraft fun.
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  7. ntall1 CCraft Team Admin

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    It has been done before. With Freelancer.
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    Damn I hope everything turns out fine
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  12. ShadedGaming SuperVIP

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    Well, microsoft just bought Minecraft. lets pray that they dont fuck it up.
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    a little late to the news, also there not gonna ruin the game, them being microsoft they have time, money and resources to make the game better! also they even said in the video about buying it that "servers and player submitted content is what made this game a success" so there NOT gonna mess with that! also if they did.. wow the hate theyd get...

    So lets hope for the best and expect a better minecraft!
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    fortune.com/2014/09/19/microsoft-to-5th-grader-well-make-minecraft-better/

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